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	<title>Comments on: Equality of what?</title>
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		<title>By: treborc</title>
		<link>http://www.openleft.co.uk/2009/08/04/equality-of-what/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax simple really you control the bonus culture by taxation, 90% tax on anything over £20,000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do not want to be equal I&#039;m not equal I&#039;ve lost the use of my legs, I would like to be treated as human though, given enough to live on, no more struggling each week to pay my way. not a lot really 65% of my wage would be nice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But we need a Tory government for that, not New labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax simple really you control the bonus culture by taxation, 90% tax on anything over £20,000.</p>
<p>I do not want to be equal I&#39;m not equal I&#39;ve lost the use of my legs, I would like to be treated as human though, given enough to live on, no more struggling each week to pay my way. not a lot really 65% of my wage would be nice.</p>
<p>But we need a Tory government for that, not New labour.</p>
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		<title>By: doranj</title>
		<link>http://www.openleft.co.uk/2009/08/04/equality-of-what/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the following summary of the &quot;realist&quot; criticism of other egalitarianisms is intersting in light of the banking bailouts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;they are too ambitious politically because they presume that governments in developed capitalist societies can still engage in a wholesale redistribution of wealth and opportunity when such governments are, in fact, thoroughly constrained by globalization and by the unwillingness of tax payers to carry the financial burden such redistribution requires.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The head of Barclays, John Varley, responded with incredulity to the suggestion of an interviewer that the government might regulate bank bonuses. This, it was suggested, would be an unwarranted intervention in the market. But obviously, there would be no bonuses if the government had not intervened in the first place to recapitalise the banks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the following summary of the &#8220;realist&#8221; criticism of other egalitarianisms is intersting in light of the banking bailouts:</p>
<p>&#8220;they are too ambitious politically because they presume that governments in developed capitalist societies can still engage in a wholesale redistribution of wealth and opportunity when such governments are, in fact, thoroughly constrained by globalization and by the unwillingness of tax payers to carry the financial burden such redistribution requires.&#8221;</p>
<p>The head of Barclays, John Varley, responded with incredulity to the suggestion of an interviewer that the government might regulate bank bonuses. This, it was suggested, would be an unwarranted intervention in the market. But obviously, there would be no bonuses if the government had not intervened in the first place to recapitalise the banks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: michael_green</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael_green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democratic equality is what the labour party&#039;s ideological ends always have been, and always will be.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Liberal republicanism is incompatible with democratic equality. Liberal republicanism is basically a strange fusion between resource equality and democratic equality in a desperate attempt to fuse liberalism with social democracy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Democratic republicanism is basically democratic equality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social democrats, socialists and democratic republicans all basically strive for democratic equality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Democratic equality is the only way to create a freedom for the individual, where citizens are in charge, and not the market or the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democratic equality is what the labour party&#39;s ideological ends always have been, and always will be.</p>
<p>Liberal republicanism is incompatible with democratic equality. Liberal republicanism is basically a strange fusion between resource equality and democratic equality in a desperate attempt to fuse liberalism with social democracy.</p>
<p>Democratic republicanism is basically democratic equality.</p>
<p>Social democrats, socialists and democratic republicans all basically strive for democratic equality.</p>
<p>Democratic equality is the only way to create a freedom for the individual, where citizens are in charge, and not the market or the state.</p>
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